tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14759247.post4448031813240346638..comments2023-06-20T08:20:25.787-07:00Comments on Lady, That's My Skull: Wanted: Experienced Proof-Reader, Apply DC OfficesSleestakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08512281434803286602noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14759247.post-2836757179145890982013-03-08T02:58:12.475-08:002013-03-08T02:58:12.475-08:00You betray your own ignorance. 'Liberals' ...You betray your own ignorance. 'Liberals' and atheists have their own brand of bigotry. All the bandwagons are full in this world.<br /><br />Let's have a Utopian world where no one can think for themselves either.ADAMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14759247.post-36916259345614923352010-07-16T16:04:53.765-07:002010-07-16T16:04:53.765-07:00Most editors stink at editing. Most have tin ears...Most editors stink at editing. Most have tin ears, and plenty are as bright as a load of rocks. I've had exactly one editor worth anything.<br /><br />Anyhow, I think this is silly projection. Get over it. If people get all up in arms over something as silly as this, writers will stop putting in any black people for fear that a black person might offend someone somewhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14759247.post-51555450689164241062010-06-24T17:36:35.433-07:002010-06-24T17:36:35.433-07:00I'm being careful not to 'whaaarglebargle&...I'm being careful not to 'whaaarglebargle' and flip out and make a crazy claim, so I'm putting in that statement so no one misses the point. And no I don't think it was intentional but it is still there and is a sad coincidence.<br /><br />I am open to editing the post and as I re-read sections and don't like how they are I probably will.Sleestakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08512281434803286602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14759247.post-28093920726021859242010-06-24T15:23:51.115-07:002010-06-24T15:23:51.115-07:00"There is no proof at this time that someone ..."There is no proof at this time that someone at DC intentionally included a racial epithet into one of their comic books nor am I claiming that they did."<br /><br />You may not be claiming it outright but isn't that kind of the basis for your post? To point out what you believe could have possibly been placed there intentionally?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06435386494909083159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14759247.post-82345402810071966252010-06-24T13:40:08.672-07:002010-06-24T13:40:08.672-07:00Anon: Gruenwald likely honestly never thought abou...Anon: Gruenwald likely honestly never thought about, in his experience, "Bucky" and "Buck" being offensive. So good on Marvel for changing it.<br /><br />RAB: In the old days an Editor would bounce anyone with a negative agenda. Can you imagine how impossible, with millions riding on licensing and movie deals, firing someone like Ellis even if he did include something that was outside the bounds of the story?Sleestakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08512281434803286602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14759247.post-72624505719671286352010-06-24T13:07:23.062-07:002010-06-24T13:07:23.062-07:00It doesn't surprise me that someone who thinks...It doesn't surprise me that someone who thinks "nanobyte" is a word or that it means anything would also have a tin ear for acronyms. Deafness to language in writers and editors has pretty well driven me away from mainstream comics -- DC is the worst offender, but Marvel isn't anything to write home about either -- though Morrison's ability to give us the occasional "yoctosphere" or "anaerobic meganthropes" keeps me reading his stuff.<br /><br />Maybe I'm too cynical (ha!) but I honestly wonder if editors at both companies would be penalized if they ever did actual editing rather than merely traffic management. If an editor ever pissed off the latest [best selling novelist slumming in comics/prominent screenwriter slumming in comics/top selling favorite whose work is adapted for big-budget action flicks] by daring to point out a bad line of dialogue or a clumsy turn of phrase -- let alone an illogical plot turn, or something that could be construed as racist or misogynist -- surely it's the editor's neck?Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01714171897239398438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14759247.post-46641327895453379252010-06-24T10:51:49.265-07:002010-06-24T10:51:49.265-07:00The gold standard of handling this sort of acciden...The gold standard of handling this sort of accidentally offensive racial implication is, to my mind, was set by Mark Gruenwald back in the 80s during the "Captain America quits" arc. John Walker—formerly the Super-Patriot, now U.S. Agent—had a black partner, Lemar Hoskins. When the government hired Walker on as the new Cap, they stuffed Hoskins into the Bucky codename and costume. Gruenwald hadn't known that "buck" was/is a racially charged epithet, and so when this was brought to his attention, rather than sweeping it under the rug, Gruenwald had an older black agent of SHIELD (I think?) point out the use and history of this word to Hoskins, who then changed his codename to "Battle Star".<br /><br />As a kid reading that issue, I honestly hadn't known about that usage of the word "buck", either, but I never forgot it. It may seem corny in the grander scheme of things, but the whole episode reinforced in my young mind the lesson that carelessly used words, regardless of intent, can be genuinely hurtful and problematic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com